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Some attention has been given to the “Sure Fire” Betting system – where you bypass the come out roll and bet on all of the place numbers for one roll only. You bet $5 on the four, five, nine, and ten, and place $6 each on the 6 and 8, so you have $32 in play. You’ll win on the four or ten ($9), five or nine ($7), and six or eight ($7). However, you’ll lose all $32 if the seven rolls, so you may have to win five more times (5 x $7 = $35) just to get your $32 back.
There is a better way of doing this, but it involves placing the same numbers BEFORE the come out roll, along with a pass line bet to protect you from the seven. You also make a “3-way” craps bet, which is a one roll bet for the numbers 2, 3 and 12. If you bet $3 ($1 each) the payoff is 30:1 ($30) on the two and twelve, and 15:1 ($15) on the three.
So you’ll bet $3 3-way craps, along with $40 on the pass line. Place $5 on the four, five, nine and ten, and $6 each on the six and eight. Be sure to request that all of your bets be “ON” for the come out roll. This way, the seven will not hurt you. Let’s see what happens when a number hits –
4 or 10 – win $6 (+$9 place – $3 3-way)
5 or 9 – win $4 (+$7 place – $3 3-way)
6 or 8 – win $4 (+7 place – $3 3-way)
7 – win $5 (+$40 pass – $32 place – $3 3-way)
11- win $37 (+$40 pass – $3 3-way)
2 or 12 – lose $10 ($30 3-way – $40 pass)
3 – lose $25 ( + $15 3-way – $40 pass )
A slight variation of this play is to make a $35 pass line bet instead of $40. This way the seven will give you a push, but you’ll only lose $5 (instead of $10) on the 2/12 or $20 (instead of $25) on the 3.
What this new system really does is shift the primary burden of losing from the seven (at 6:1 odds) to the three (at 12:1 odds). In the first mentioned “sure-fire” system, if you lost on the seven, you would lose …
Many casinos now offer up to 100X odds to their craps players. What most crapshooters don’t realize is that you can place odds for any amount under 100X as well – for example you can take 7X odds, or 16X odds if you want to. This can be very profitable if you are betting pass-line and come bets, as you can increase your odds bets progressively while the flat portion stays the same.
The odds portion is the “free” part of your bet, and commands no casino vig. Thus you can bet $5 pass (or come) and take up to $500 odds in many casinos. The flat pass or come bet will pay $5 but the odds portion pays true odds, not casino odds.
Before you plunge in and start betting, you should have a high enough bankroll to sustain yourself for a long run in order to produce a maximum profit. This should be 100X your first bet, or $500 if you’re betting $5 chips. Plus, you need to chart the table before you start to bet. You’ll have a lot of money on the table for this system, and you only want to bet with a qualified shooter – in other words, a shooter who has won already with a point number.
After the shooter is qualified, bet $5 pass. When the point is established take one unit odds and place $5 in the come box for the next two numbers, and take one unit odds on both of them. Then, just wait for a decision.
If you win on any numbers (pass or come), bet the same way on the next come out, but this time take two units odds on both your pass and come bets. One more positive decision and bet 3 units, then 4 units, then 5 units, etc. Note that you are increasing your odds bets by one unit when you are winning, while the flat portion remain the same. If you only win on the pass line but lose your two come bets, keep the odds bets the same, for the same qualified shooter.
If you lose a bet, go down one unit on the odds only. If you get down to single odds again and lose, you’re finished with this bet. And if you get down to single odds on all three bets, take a break for a while or find …
When I talk to place bet players, most of them seem confident that the best place bet is the 6 or 8. This bet pays 7:6, that is when you bet $30, you’ll win $35. Some people place bet both numbers together, increasing their chances of winning, but at the same time, exposing their money to more risk.
If the seven rolls, you’re out $60 (2 x $30), which means you have to win twice more just to get ahead. The seven should roll six times in 36 rolls, and the combination of the 6 and 8 should roll ten times (five times each). So, in 36 rolls, you should win 10 times (at $35) and lose six times (at $60). This turns out to be a net loss of $10 ($350-$360).
Are there any other numbers that we can bet on which could provide a more profitable win than the six and eight? Let’s take a look at the four and ten, with its standard 9:5 odds.
In 36 rolls, the four and ten combination should roll six times (three each), the same amount as the seven. By betting $25 on both the four and ten, you should win six times (6 x $45) and lose six times (6 x $50), resulting in a net loss of $30 ($270-$300). However, there are some special circumstances surrounding these numbers. The four and ten can be “bought” for a 5% commission. Plus, some casinos only charge this “vig” if you win. And finally, that 5% commission is usually only $1 on a $25 bet (instead of $1.25) to obtain true odds, or 2:1 (instead of 9:5) for your bets. This means that if you buy the four and ten and win one of them, you’ll get $50 (at 2:1) instead of $45 (at 9:5).
As previously mentioned, by placing the 6 & 8 you might lose $10 in 36 rolls. By buying the 4 & 10, you should win six times if either the four or ten hit, at 2:1 odds (6 x $50 = $300). You might also lose six times if the seven rolls, losing both of your bets (6 x $50 = $300), resulting in an exactly even proposition. If you play in a casino that only collects the vigs when you win (Binions Horseshoe in Las Vegas is one), you’ll only lose $6 in vigs for six …
When you play craps, you probably know the house odds for most numbers on place bets. For example, the odds on the six and eight are 7:6 (bet $6, get $7), the odds on the five and nine are 7:5 (bet $5, get $7) and the odds on the four and ten are 9:5 (bet $5, get $9). But, when you want to add odds to your pass or come bets, the payoff is different. This is because they are true odds, which means that the casino has no advantage on these odds bets. Here is an easy way to remember what the true odds for your bets should be.
The odds for the numbers six and eight are the same, as are the odds for five and nine, and, four and ten. If you just subtract one from the smaller of these numbers and relate it to six (the number of times a seven rolls) you get the true odds.
For example, to get the true odds for the four or ten, just subtract one from four to get three. So the true odds of the four or ten are 6:3, or 2:1. To get the true odds for the six or eight, subtract one from six to get five. So the true odds for the six or eight are 6:5. And finally, to get the true odds for the five or nine, subtract one from five to get four, so the odds are 6:4, or 3:2.
If you have $10 on the come or pass line and your point is a five or nine, subtract one from five to get four. The true odds is 6:4, or 3:2 (bet $20, get $30). So for double odds you can add $20 odds to your $10 flat bet and win $10 from the flat portion and $30 from the odds portion, for a total of $40.
If the point is four or ten, subtract one from four to get three. The true odds is 6:3, or 2:1 (bet $20, get $40). On double odds, you can add $20 to your flat $10 bet and win $10 on the flat portion and $40 to the odds portion, for a total of $50.
The six or eight is a little different. If you subtract one from six you get five, which means the true odds are 6:5. If you have a flat …